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smooth1_1
01-25-2007, 09:16 AM
* Your banned player GUID:15494C304D638DABB04A0DEA4CE78DB6
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* The name you were banned under:smooth1_1
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* Your current in-game account name:smooth1_1
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* The reason you feel this ban should be lifted:If someone calls you a liar, you don't change your address. There was a PC gaming magazine article a couple months back that berated the path that cheating has taken now. It talked about how there are now pay-for-hack services, where your hack can be custom made and made 100% undetectable for a fee. From that point, whenever I played a session of AA, I would have the unshakable feeling that the guys that are owning me couldn't be doing that good without the aid of these pay services. People accusing each other of using wallhacks, and aimbots, and ESP and a bunch of other terms I didn't understand. So, using the power of the internet I decided to try out a hack to see for myself what happened when using them, so I could see, using my new experience as a guide, if it appeared my assailant was actually using some illicit means of killing me. I downloaded the simplest program, just an aimbot/recoil hack and planned on trying it out on a cheat server, where cheating is allowed, judging by the name. This file was downloaded with the warning it was 100% detected on punkbuster. Oddly enough, when I set my filters on AA, there were none running even though I had started the aimbot program. "Oh well, maybe some other time", I thought. I ended up just scrapping the idea and just deleting the aimbot program. Then the problem began. About a week later, I started up my next session of AA and got booted for having a file on my C:\ drive called hack.ini (stupid name if you're trying to hide a hack). The problem I had at the time was when I got booted, the message flashed too quick to read it and see what the problem was. So I tried a different map and got the same result, but this time I saw the message and found the stupid file and deleted it. Now the ACI and AON banlists are updated and I am getting harrassed everywhere for it. By some leap of logic, it seems everyone thinks that the only ones who are allowed to have any knowledge of hacks are the hackers. Knowledge is not the problem. Perhaps if everyone talked about them, there would be less mystery behind them and everyone would know when they are playing against a hacker or someone better than them. I have had my AA account since 2003 on v1.1. I have learned a lot of people's names and many have learned my name, usually having my name followed by "was shot by (your name)". Unlike many of the hackers out there, I DO admit there was a hack file on my PC and I even opened it, and, had there been a cheat server available, I would have even killed people with it. I also don't have a horrible fragrate to fall back on as an excuse. It's about a 1 (0.95 overall, 1.1 on SF extraction), so I can't say "See? I can't be hacking, my FR is atrocious!" But I can say that I am in the same boat as the groups such as ACI and AON. I understand that trying to stop these sadists that want to feel better by making everyone else's time worse can be a daunting task, so I don't begrudge them for placing me on this list. I have just found that now it is no picnic being on the other side of their banlists. But I had no clue how strongly these groups were tied together and how total the enforcement of this ban has become. I am being berated on AASA servers and called out in admin messages, then booted. It's like having tomatoes thrown at you when you go the supermarket. I am now eating a large slice of humble pie and coming to ACI (and AON coming up) to ask that a little understanding be bestowed by those that also want to learn what they're up against when playing these games.
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Beastie-ACI-
01-25-2007, 09:37 AM
appeals will be with you when they have time
kick logs are posted

als0 this account is banned by aon

www.airdaleops.com




[2007.01.19 22:44:56] 15494c304d638dabb04a0dea4ce78db6 "smooth1_1" "70.226.167.132" ACI-FILE-SQUIRRELBOTPUB


[01.19.2007 22:44:56] |6950| VIOLATION (CVAR) #9001: smooth1_1 (slot #7) Cvar Loader AAOPath c:\Hack.ini = D:\GAMES\AMERICA'S ARMY\SYSTEM\ARMYOPS.EXE [15494c304d638dabb04a0dea4ce78db6(-) 70.226.167.132:4215]
[01.20.2007 01:41:12] |21454| VIOLATION (CVAR) #9001: smooth1_1 (slot #15) Cvar Loader AAOPath c:\Hack.ini = D:\GAMES\AMERICA'S ARMY\SYSTEM\ARMYOPS.EXE [15494c304d638dabb04a0dea4ce78db6(-) 70.226.167.132:4505]
[01.20.2007 02:56:42] |59759| VIOLATION (CVAR) #9001: smooth1_1 (slot #19) Cvar Loader AAOPath c:\Hack.ini = D:\GAMES\AMERICA'S ARMY\SYSTEM\ARMYOPS.EXE [15494c304d638dabb04a0dea4ce78db6(-) 70.226.167.132:4871]

-ACI-KillJoy-MRP-
01-25-2007, 06:18 PM
When you decided to go about investigating these cheat programs did you stop by the evenbalance website and read up on the policies there?
Did you think about trying to join one of the AC groups that offer protection for server admins to see what knowledge could be accumulated?

When ever I get the idea to do something, I take and make sure I cover all my bases and know exactly what kind of can I am opening so as that when I open it it does not pop out some type of aligator, but only a bunch of worms at the most.

I can not remember how many times I have posted this exact quote from the EvenBalance website in ban appeals that have been opened on this site. I only know that it is straight foreward and to the point. Pay attention to the orange and red text.
Sunday 8.24.2003 [2:00PM]

As a friendly notice to the AA community, this news post is made about the topic of permanent PB bans. As with other games that are supported by PB, if a player is caught by PB with a hack or cheat that directly modifies PB or interferes with any PB function (including the ability to take accurate screenshots), that player's PB GUID will be immediately subject to permanent ban from ALL PB enabled servers without recourse. It is in direct violation of PunkBuster's license agreement to attempt to use PunkBuster software in a manner not consistent with PunkBuster's design and purpose. This is an issue we take very seriously and for which we do not give extra chances. If you are an honest player or admin, DO NOT attempt to test cheats that interfere with PB on public PB enabled servers. Regardless of what the punks say on their various websites, none of their hacks are undetectable by PunkBuster. If you are caught with one of the hacks that interferes with PB and your GUID is permanently banned from all PB Servers, we will not remove your GUID from the ban list even if you were "testing" or even if another member of your family got caught when using your computer. You will still be able to play the game on and/or host servers that have PunkBuster disabled. This policy has been in effect since January of this year. However, we are extending a grace period to the AA community through Wednesday, August 27th. After that point, all violations on PB servers related to tampering with PB's normal functionality will subject the PB GUID in question to permanent ban from all PB Servers without recourse.
The above is taken straight from the evenbalance website:
http://www.punkbuster.com/index.php?page=support-aa.php

We follow these same guidlines here at ACI.

This Community and others have used this methodoligy for quite some time.
Yes you say that you were not using it and that it was a leftover file after you removed the cheat. We have no real way of knowing this. All we know is that there was a known and detected cheat file located on the system that the account was used on.
This is why we only ban the account.

This appeal is denied. Feel free to create a new account and continue playing AA or you can attempt to play on the limited number of servers that do not run banlists with your existing account.